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Kaivar Lancer
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Posted - 2012.08.25 02:09:00 -
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I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.
The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.
I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.
So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.
Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing? |

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Posted - 2012.08.25 03:58:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:
So 10m/hour 10mill/60min 166666.6isk/min 10 min active = 1666666.6isk/10min 166666.6isk/min*60min=10mill/hour
Sound to me like so done needs to focus more on there homework and less on eve
7/10 for you, as I was going to go out for lunch but you've compelled me to reply.
And thus I bold the relevant points in my original post.
Kaivar Lancer wrote:I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.
The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.
I mine around 10m isk per hour in my Retriever. So for every active minute I spent in-game, I earnt 1m isk. So for every 60 minutes of "active" mining, I make 60m isk.
So I can say that I make 60m isk per hour from mining.
Pretty neat, eh? Can mission runners boast the same thing?
Just so people can follow the basic maths:
10m isk / 10 active minutes = 1m isk per active minute
60 active minutes of mining = 60 * 1m isk per active minute = 60m isk per active hour
So for every hour I spend clicking and scanning asteroids, moving cargo, warping and other forms of ACTIVE mining-related gameplay, I make 60m isk. |

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Posted - 2012.08.25 08:53:00 -
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Amrumm wrote:Kaivar Lancer wrote:I was doing some basic timing using a stopwatch, and discovered that I spent about 10 minutes per hour of mining, actively doing something in the game. This would be stuff like locking an asteroid, moving cargo, warping, etc.
The other 50 mins was spent semi-afk doing homework on a second monitor.
So you are distracting yourself with a game while you should be studying? Your parents must be so proud of you. Lucky for you there will be plenty of time for minimum wage internships after you complete your studies so you can bring your real-life skills up to a decent level.
Thanks! There's another guy in this thread who charges clients $150/hr to AFK mine. I think I have found my calling. Thank you, Eve Community.  |

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Posted - 2012.08.26 14:43:00 -
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Nyreanya wrote:Using the OP's logic, I can say I make about 400 mil/hour doing science. He's obviously not studying math.
When you go to work, do you add travel time when calculating your $/hr from your job? No? Why is that?
The same logic applies for calculating isk/hr when mining. For 10 mins of "work" (mouse-clicking etc), I earn 10m isk. The other 50 minutes, I don't do anything mining-related.
That's like working 10 minutes, going home for 50 minutes to jack off, then coming back to work for another 10 minutes. Rinse and repeat.
This is common sense. |

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Posted - 2012.08.27 03:52:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:
I also make over 10 billion isk an hour actively running the market.
Planetary interaction makes me about 300m an hour.
Plexing makes me 5 billion an hour.
I think that's a valid comparison, at least as market trading is concerned (haven't done PI or plexing). Back when I was trading last year, I earnt around 50m profit per day. Spent maybe 10 mins checking orders. So I made 300m per hr. I don't know how you make 10b per hr but since we're discussing trading, anything is possible so congrats. :) |

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Posted - 2012.08.27 12:24:00 -
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McDeth Macaroth wrote:Wait, can you explain it a bit better for me. You make 10m an hour mining, but when you 'active mine' you make 60m...
What's the difference between the two, and what set up you use?
I make 10m an hour with a Mack getting boosts..
Try to re-read my original post. You still make 10m per hour from mining. However, to make that 10m, you only need to actively play the game for around 10 minutes per hour. The other 50 minutes can be spent semi-AFK.
Multiply the 'active' time by six so you can convert 10 minutes into one hour. For every hour you spend "actively mining" in the game (clicking the mouse, warping, moving cargo etc), you earn 60m. Of course, you'll need to spend 300 minutes semi-AFK to access this money (6 * 50 minutes = 300 minutes).
But since semi-AFK = not playing the game, technically it should not be considered in calculating isk/hour.
In RL, this is why most workers do not consider travel time in calculating their hourly wage. Since you're not at work, traveling is usually not considered work. And likewise, when you are semi-AFK, the time you spend semi-AFK shouldn't be considered when calculating your isk/hour.
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Posted - 2012.08.28 03:56:00 -
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Did some further analysis outside of mining. I looked at T1 manufacturing and from one slot alone, I could make 400m profit per month. I reckon that would take perhaps 10 mins to setup for the whole month?
400m * 6 = 2.4 b isk per hour
Time to retire my retriever. |

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Posted - 2012.08.30 15:53:00 -
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Uh. I've been critted by the sheer stupidity in this thread.
Do you know there are traders in RL who dedicate only 10 minutes each morning to setup their market orders, and then enjoy the rest of the day? It may take 24 hours for those pending orders to trigger, and another 24 hours to reach take-profit or stop loss, whichever is hit first.
Did this trader work for 48 hours for his money?
NO. It only took 10 minutes of labour to setup his orders.
What is wrong with some of you people? |

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Posted - 2012.09.01 10:33:00 -
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Marcus McTavish wrote:
Holy Monkey Balls, you nearly proved yourself wrong!!!
While they are only spending 10 minutes, STUFF IS STILL HAPPENING TO HIS MONEY.
In the same way HIS MONEY is still working, SO IS YOUR MINING BARGE.
CONGRATS! You've discovered the definition of "active" time! This is the whole point that I've been trying to make. |

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Posted - 2012.09.02 14:30:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Next time use far less stupid examples when trying to make a point and just get right to the point. You "actively" wasted far to much of my time.
My original post is only 7 lines long. I will post a warning for dyslexics next time. |
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Posted - 2012.09.02 14:33:00 -
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Marcus McTavish wrote: You can not skip those 50 minutes in between! Not unless you have a Time Machine, which going by your train of thought, we can dismiss.
I never said you can skip 50 minutes.
10 minutes = time spent actively playing 50 minutes = semi-AFK
For every 10 minutes actively playing = 10 million isk |

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Posted - 2012.11.13 15:10:00 -
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<----- Carebear no more! |
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